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Leading by example—for better and for worse

feat. Jonathan Widawski, Co-founder & CEO at Maze

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Leading by example—for better and for worse

In this episode...

The co-founder and CEO of Maze explains how to conquer fears about putting yourself out into the world by building the right support network. And failing. A lot. 

He also talks about how Maze encourages its remote team to meet up and over-share to prevent loneliness at the company, and why it’s super important that he sets a good example on work-life balance—even when leading a high-growth startup makes this really hard.

You’ll also hear how Jonathan realised his previous startup would have to wind down after a devastating call with investors—and how this experience informs how he deals with founder anxiety. It’s a conversation about making sure you aren’t defined by what you do.

About the guest

Jonathan co-founded Maze in 2018 to help digital product teams power up their user research process. He’s an expert in UX design, having led UX teams, taught code & design at IIM Digital School, and founded two UX-focused startups. Jonathan believes in empowering people to make their own decisions about how, where, and when they work to achieve the best possible results.

About Oliva

Oliva is the employee mental wellbeing platform for companies who want to properly care for their people, and help them grow.

By combining proper therapy courses, coaching (the good kind), dedicated support for managers, and mental fitness classes—all led by a curated team of top professionals—Oliva helps employees respond to whatever hurdles life throws at them: big or small, at work and beyond.